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Good/bad points of practicing forms?
I come from a martial arts background without any form work, and always found the concept of doing forms to be a bit odd. I have also heard many passionate arguments for and against forms - they contain the condensed wisdom of generations of martial artists, they're a waste of time, they help train the body to learn necessary movement patterns, they give the person practicing the form a false sense of security (i.e., mastering a form does not necessarily equal martial ability).
As sort of an informal poll, I would like to hear what you think about doing form work, and whether or not your attitude towards forms has evolved over time. Peter |
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Well, one point in favor of the form is as a tool to check yourself with. Many of the applications are next to impossible to make work without circle to center/center to center, etc. So if you're trying to demo applications and you can't make them work smoothly, you know you still have work to do.
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I think forms can be a good training tool. Like Ashe said, they're a good way to check yourself. They also provide a means of practice when you're by yourself. I know that I don't have continual access to practice partners, so solo exercises and form are the brunt of my practice.
The downside to forms is when they're used improperly. Just like using a wrong tool for a job, using forms incorrectly gives poor results. Performing a form mindlessly without any understanding of the body mechanics or attention to the movements is pretty much useless. |
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Peter |
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really we just have the 21 and butterfly as a form of common ground that Sifu can fall back on to help discuss and demonstrate certain principles and concepts.
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I think that the forms in this style are designed to basically help to demonstrate the principles of what we are learning e.g. the 15 basics, and put them into a dynamic context and trains the body mechanics. In many styles the forms are an integral part of the grading system too. I like forms as part of the mix and it would be nice if we had a few more in my opinion.
I’ve been training the butterfly this year because I want to go for a grading in Aug when Sam comes over. I have found myself also practicing the mirror image of the form we are taught. I.e. at the end, instead of closing I start again and step forward with my left leg and then go through the form as a mirror image of the first round. It’s a good brain exercise too! I got this idea because last year a few of our club completed locally and one comment was the Butterfly form “was a bit short” so I thought OK, I’ll repeat it and do a slight shift by changing the L & R handedness of it. |
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I was at a seminar this past weekend in Riga, Latvia, and Sifu devoted almost an entire day to teaching various applications from the 21 Form. Understanding how a movement is actually used in an application radically changes one's understanding of the the form itself . E.g., a minor rotation of the forearm may be necessary to lock the opponent's wrist or shoulder, which could be a precondition for the effectiveness of an application. This new awareness then goes back into how the Form is executed, making the movements even more exact. Without this awareness, the practitioner is just waving around his arms, and the form serves no martial purpose.
Thus for me the 21 Form is an ever-evolving training tool which is constantly being revised and refined as my awareness grows. Peter |
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Nevertheless, looking into each movement of the form and its application was very useful for progressing and understanding the meaning behind it, and I am thankful to Sigun Sam for showing and explaining that to us. |
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Peter |
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I am that beginner guy who dared to ask some stupid questions and took the pictures of you all after the grading. |